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November 4, 2019

RMD Week 1 Plan: Nov 4th-10th, 2019

Filed under: Robinson Dorion — Robinson Dorion @ 4:18 a.m.

Upon scratching the surface in the review/plan mining process, I struck gold1 :

The main things that need to go in there are, in order: 1. things I assigned to you 2. things you want feedback on/help with 3. anything else that takes up a significant amount of your time.

I decided that was enough to start with, I'm on a deadline anyways.

1. Things my Master assigned me:

  1. My series of posts adding meat to the bones of The Fabled Outlines.
    1. (1.5h) 2.1-2.2: Prospecting from Prospect Point : recollect the process and struggle of settling into the islands, the pleasure of making new friends and the refuge of sanity provided by calling the lead pool.
    2. (3h) 2.3.1-2.3.{3,9}: How many Banks in a Bank : describe the layers of asset custody and the layers of data custody of the bank's infrastructure.
    3. (1.5h) 2.3.4-2.3.8: Learning to Work : Describe my n00bishness and how I worked through it with a good guide for the purpose.

2. Things I want feedback on/help with.

  1. While Jacob referred to our business, JWRD Computing, as salt mining, I'm persuaded differently. It's not just about the money2, but the relationships. I see what we're doing as people mining by showing our clients how to remove their computing handcuffs and through the process they may become Young Hands themselves. We have business plans and sales presentations as LaTex source, I'm going to work to port them to my blog and would like feedback on the approach we're taking. I don't have a good estimate for this at present, but will chip away and have a better estimate for delivery date by next week.
  2. (3h)3 In observing the S.NSA pending liquidation in #t, #a and Trilema, some questions for asciilifeform have occurred to me that I don't believe have been asked and I believe may help him4 process the situation. My interest is motivated by paying back what I have and is still quite small relative to what I've gained from reading him over the years. I'll need to prepare myself with the relevant links beforehand. The two main clarifications I seek are his claim to lacking a self-image and what reads to me as a labor theory of value worldview that may be a cause of discounting management. What I want is permission to engage him in #a.
  3. While the downsides of Panama have been duly noted, I'm motivated to write about my experience here as both a reflection on the 7 years I have on the ground as well as to help support Republican wire hoping and relocations outside the zone. I haven't outlined this yet and supplementary to this plan to start chewing the Panamanian Civil Code.
  4. I doubt this is the week for it, but I will underscore my interest in the The Qntra Journalism Short Course. Secondary to sharpening myself to contribute to tmsr, I think the process will enrich my ability5 in producing the series of posts I already owe and beyond.

3. anything else that takes up a significant amount of your time.

  1. (18h) JWRD : 3h of management, including review of last month. 11h6 of session preparation and delivery. 5h of local relationship development7 .
  2. (3.5h)8 Junto : Part 1 of a presentation series summarizing Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman.
  3. Dorion Mode : Blogs I've not publicly promised, but have come to mind and I have motivation to write.
    1. (2.5h) Timing is everything, perfection unattainable : A review with annotations/links of the heavy #o conversations, October 16th and October 29th in particular.
    2. (1.5h) The Scroll Marked I: Becoming a slave to good habits. I've read The Greatest Salesman in the World prior, and have decided to pick up the Scrolls again. Annotate Scroll I.
  4. (21h) Following the forum and conversing when it's my time. I'm planning to block off 14:00-15:309 and 19:00-20:30 UTC to properly eat and engage the logs and blogs. Not sure if this is enough time, but my premise is working in blocks will maximize my focus and mitigate getting lost in the forum.
  5. (7h)10 Daily Review/Preview to start up, wind down day.
  6. (3h) Weekly review/preview11 .
  7. (5h 15m) 45 minutes of exercise each morning.
  8. (5h 50m) 20 min Spanish12 , 30 min French each morning13 .
  9. Finalize year-end travel plans. Paternal side of family gets together the 28th of Nov (Thanksgiving) in Vermont. Maternal side has trip to Hawaii booked Dec 26th-Jan 6th14 . Rather than make a trip back to Panama in between, the plan is to stay there for December. I'll be able to progress JWRD work15 , chew through my blog backlog and keep up with the forum. I do plan to take advantage of the elements16 , which includes being in the woods a couple days to deer hunt17 and on the mountain for a ski. In December, I'll likely make a trip south to visit my sister in Maryland and asciilifeform for a tea, assuming he'll meet me. The trip south will likely include a weekend stopover in New York City to see friends18 .


The lists above mark out 76.5 hours + 49 hours of sleep make 125.5 hours allocated of the 168, leaving 42.5 h. For now, I'm satisfied with leaving it here, documenting how well the above estimations pan out in next weeks review and adjusting as needed. I'm using Jacob's clocking tool to track how I spend the coins of my time.

  1. Literally first post I read upon clicking from Recent Posts, win. []
  2. Salary []
  3. 90 mins prep, 90 mins to converse. []
  4. As well as myself. []
  5. Towards this end, I'm slowing chipping away at The Art of Nonfiction by Ayn Rand as I have it on my dead tree shelf, though I'm open to better alternatives. []
  6. 4 90 minute sessions + 2.5h of commute (walking) + 2.5h prep and review. []
  7. One meeting scheduled, many follow up emails to send. Being a holiday here, locals won't work again until Wednesday. []
  8. 2hr presentation + dinner with the crew afterwards. []
  9. 9-10:30 local time []
  10. 30 mins in morning, 30 mins before sleep []
  11. This week's took multiples longer, with the review covering a longer space and not having a prior published plan to use as skeleton. I expect this weeks plan to serve as a skeleton for next week because this planning muscle is weak at present. []
  12. With so many English speakers in Panama and English heavy work, gotta keep the gears greased. []
  13. Currently halfway through Pimsler L1, audio heavy with reading supplement course. Reaching out to French speakers locally. []
  14. An island cruise the 27th to 4th with travel bookends. []
  15. I have meat-WoT prospects there; thought one was going to start the 18th, but he punted to 2020. []
  16. One who grew up with seasons longs for the cold after too long in the tropics. []
  17. I have a blog in mind for my appreciation for hunting, will include pics ! []
  18. One of which works at a fiat funds of funds and managed to buy Bitcoin in 2012ish, which he told me about in late 2013. []


  1. 1. ok.

    2.1 is precisely what you should focus on, yes. Publish your business plan and anything else you have, it's quite a priority for you to keep growing there.

    2.2 only if you set yourself a clear, limited amount of time for this and *stick to it* please.

    2.3 this should also be quite close to and at very least in part reflected in 2.1 above so yes, move it up the list and do it.

    2.4 noted; I also think it will be a good match but *not right now*. You have a lot of things with higher priority to get done as soon as possible.

    3.2 sounds like you could even record and upload on your blog too those meetings/presentations, why not; also, why are those people so internet-shy?

    3.3 those are time-permitting only. Also, I must say I'm rather skeptical of the sort of "philosophy" but at least it's not The Tribes or whatever it was called.

    3.4 - 3.8 sounds good for now.

    3.9 No problem there that I can see, except make sure you really understand what happened with S.NSA before doing anything more than tea with Stan. Other than that: a big yes to posts on your appreciation for hunting, pics included, would love to read that!

    And it's just ONE blog you got there, silly. One blog on which you write posts (or "blog posts").

    Comment by Diana Coman — November 4, 2019 @ 5:03 p.m.

  2. Digested and thanks all around!

    Comment by Robinson Dorion — November 4, 2019 @ 6:26 p.m.

  3. I'll add those bits here as they are both relevant for interacting with Stan:

    mp_en_viaje: hanbot, remarkably, diana_coman actually predicted the whole decay spiral last week. quite accurately, at that.


    : mp's latest masterpiece doesn't disappoint. diana_coman i suspect this, for instance, is a q addressed to erryone here.
    asciilifeform: and i'd like to hear concrete answers, from : ave1 , BingoBoingo , bvt , diana_coman , lobbes , mod6 , spyked , trinque .
    asciilifeform: mod6 in particular hasn't afaik spoken yet. i'm curious, mod6 , will you let mp disassemble and plunder tbf ?
    asciilifeform: at this pt i'ma say that what, if anyffin, remains of the republic -- is currently assembled ~here~. let's see what, exactly , remains.
    asciilifeform: imho is adequately illustrated nao -- working for mp is its own punishment, like sniffing glue. all of you are of course welcome to ignore the warning and do another, own, '7 years', in mpschwitz, until the inevitable shitcanning.
    asciilifeform: can't speak for others, but asciilifeform would like to put his wot ratings in order by end of this wk. others invited to do same.
    asciilifeform: republic -- door on the left. 5th reich -- door on the right.
    asciilifeform: make a decision that you can live with. as i did.
    diana_coman: asciilifeform: *you* ask me what questions you have and I'll answer.
    diana_coman: I'm listening.
    asciilifeform: diana_coman: since apparently q wasn't clear (imho mp made it very simple) -- do you agree with this proclamation ?
    diana_coman: asciilifeform: you ask me a question of yours, not if I agree with whatever someone else said somewhere else; please.
    asciilifeform: not sure why requires a tea ceremony, but how about : diana_coman, do you agree that 'the present value of Stanislav Datskovskiy's future work is today exactly zero, for very good reasons that stand on a lot of historical backing' ?
    diana_coman: that's still not your question, is it; sigh.
    diana_coman: asciilifeform: I'll ask you one, if you don't mind
    asciilifeform listening
    diana_coman: asciilifeform: do you intend to not work with me if I work with MP?
    asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma work with anyone. even, theoretically, with (but not 'for') mp (tho as i understand he'd rather eat glass.) but the proviso is, as ~republicans~ , i.e. free people in own right. folx who answer to the fuhrer, and consider him a moral authority, are guaranteed to face difficulties here sooner or later.
    asciilifeform: so i'd like to invite folx to think.
    diana_coman: asciilifeform: do you consider me a republican currently ?
    asciilifeform: diana_coman: tbh i do not know yet.
    asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'd like to ask you the same q, also.
    diana_coman: asciilifeform: right; and you'll "know it" based on whether I continue working with MP or not, right?
    asciilifeform: diana_coman: no.
    diana_coman: asciilifeform: so ASK THE QUESTION ffs.
    diana_coman: asciilifeform: how will you know it then? based on what?
    asciilifeform: diana_coman: very simple. when mp issues fatwa, on what side of the razor wire will diana_coman be found ? i do not yet know.
    diana_coman: 1. I have no idea what fatwa are you talking about 2. how is that different from "if you work with MP, I won't work with you" ?
    diana_coman: (also, let me point out that making a "decision" as to whether people are republicans/free in own right based on whether they pledge allegiance to you or to someone else is communist in action if nothing else)
    asciilifeform: diana_coman: to be very clear, in eyes of asciilifeform , mp is a harmless maniac, and asciilifeform's whatever workplace injuries from trying to work for him, are arguably self-inflicted. like injuries from running into brick wall. ( arguably oughta have stopped no later than this point, there was ample warning. ) so i dun intend to issue any fatwas or ask for pledges
    asciilifeform: , will leave those to the fella with jupiter-sized ego. but would like folx to ~think~ .
    diana_coman: if he's harmless, what's it all to you, there's no sense there.
    diana_coman: what "this is the republic *here*" and all that.
    asciilifeform: diana_coman: i wish to ask you to describe your conception of 'the republic'.
    asciilifeform: we may be working from different priors.
    diana_coman: asciilifeform: do me a favour and judge me as a person, make your determination & rate me accordingly, I'm fine with whatever it might be.
    diana_coman: asciilifeform: I think I described in quite detail in #o and you were tuned in, no? but here for quick link:
    ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-10-16 diana_coman: jfw: as to the republic as a whole, the fundamental aspect I'd say is the fact that it's a republic of men (ie individual agents, active and self-directed entities)
    asciilifeform: diana_coman: i unfortunately know very little about diana_coman as person. i know that diana_coman was once an academic, and quit because tired of the 4th reich's bullshit. then agreed to work for mp, for (unlike asciilifeform, who was a rube and bit promisetronic hook) coin on the barrelhead. and it would seem that asciilifeform and diana_coman historically agreed re questions pertaining to softwares .
    asciilifeform: beyond this i sadly do not know much, my ro is too weak to adequately absorb diana_coman's older writings re philosophies just yet.
    diana_coman: as I'm running out of time currently and people are waiting for me, I'll answer the question you never actually asked: I'll interact gladly with asciilifeform's outputs, both physical artefacts and blog posts; and I'll provide feedback on those gladly; I am however extremely tired of attempting direct coordination on anything that is not one of those 2 things.
    asciilifeform: diana_coman: very good, ty for answer.
    diana_coman: I suppose I should add in the spirit of full disclosure that I will go as far as positively steer away from direct coordination due to past experience (of which the above "question" gives quite the clear flavour re nothing changed).
    diana_coman will bbl

    Comment by Diana Coman — November 5, 2019 @ 8:07 a.m.

  4. 3.2 sounds like you could even record and upload on your blog too those meetings/presentations, why not; also, why are those people so internet-shy?

    I didn't overlook this, but wanted to talk with them prior to sharing.

    As of now, two are most Internet active in a Telegram (derp app) channel they run. The focus of it is volatility mining to add to their Bitcoin, i.e. let go of 1 BTC into an alt, aim to get back 2 BTC (sometimes more) after selling the pumps. Taking profits in 2017 allowed them to move to Panama and focus on that. Tax incentives brought them here, e.g. no capital gains. They don't "believe" in the alts outside of a way to increase their BTC by riding the hype waves and having a plan to sell.

    We're guiding them through GPG this week, exciting times.

    The other runs a small, but growing, business (he exposed us to Peter Drucker) and pours the majority of his spare time into music composition, reading and going through our course. He's quite conscious of time scarcity and despite some nudging from me re setting up a blog to write/share his composition and topics he's reading (mainly very old books), he thinks now his priority is to focus on doing the composition rather than talk about it. Another big focus is managing his business to the point where he has the people and processes in place to allow him to step away from the day to day and manage at a higher level.

    Comment by Robinson Dorion — November 6, 2019 @ 3:54 p.m.

  5. Thank you for the details, good to know. Fwiw they rather sound too busy to figure out otherwise what matters. While there's certainly nothing wrong with riding altcoins for profit, what you are describing there that they do is also not a business in any sense (they *could* offer a useful service and make it into one but it would be entirely different from what is described). Yes, they are ahead of a lot of others who can't even figure that out but no, they are in no way part of bitcoin just because they don't believe in alts, it takes much more than that.

    Let them be, there's absolutely no intention of standing in the way of people busy with themselves.

    Comment by Diana Coman — November 7, 2019 @ 7:36 a.m.

  6. they are in no way part of bitcoin just because they don't believe in alts, it takes much more than that.

    Agreed, the first reference to describe of the broader scope than most consider that came to mind was the The Forum and its Implementation.

    Let them be, there's absolutely no intention of standing in the way of people busy with themselves.

    They are pretty avid readers and a reason they're working with us is because they want to grow; nevertheless, it takes a lot to catch up, let alone keep up and as I learned from experienced today... what I can control is being my strongest if/when they're ready.

    Comment by Robinson Dorion — November 9, 2019 @ 5:35 a.m.

  7. Ah, I meant to ask, what further references regarding what it takes to be part of Bitcoin are good starting points. Maybe asking off hand like this isn't the best way to go about it, but I'ma plant the seed here while the thought is fresh.

    Comment by Robinson Dorion — November 9, 2019 @ 5:38 a.m.

  8. The trouble with "avid readers" is that it still takes *doing* rather than just reading to amount to anything. I am willing to fully believe you if you say that they are great guys and want to learn and everything else but unless and until they register a key and show up and *aim to do something useful*, they will still not be much part of anything.

    Whether a reference is a good starting point or not depends to a great extent on the person reading it really. As with a lot of other things, the order in which you experience/make sense of various aspects is not fixed, nor does it need to be. In principle like that all of republican output (logs and blogs) would be precisely about "what it takes to be part of Bitcoin" (and I rather think you most probably read by now quite a lot of it anyway). Which particular bit happens to fully click for one or another at some point is a much more difficult question.

    The above being said, if you'd still want another ref, I could point to my talk & slides as they were made specifically as an easily accessible entrance point to Bitcoin. And other than the basics in there, I make also explicit a clear distinction with rather wider implications, between innovating and subverting.

    Comment by Diana Coman — November 11, 2019 @ 1:18 p.m.

  9. unless and until they register a key and show up and *aim to do something useful*, they will still not be much part of anything

    Word, and very much maps to my own experience.

    Whether a reference is a good starting point or not depends to a great extent on the person reading it really.

    Makes a++ sense and calls to mind that while reality is objective, each individual has a subjective experience of said reality.

    I rather think you most probably read by now quite a lot of it anyway

    For sure, and for quite some time, but having skin in the game is a quite different mode of being.

    On the innovating and subverting front, prior to them meeting us they were of the position that owning BTC is a political statement, which leads me to believe they're primed, but actions speak louder than words now and forever and doings through time will tell.

    Thanks a lot for that and apologies for the latency (again!) ; striking it at the root has to be done, not just said.

    Comment by Robinson Dorion — November 18, 2019 @ 4:44 p.m.

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